What You Said About Institutional Religion
(Reader Responses)

Martin Thielen

October 6, 2026

Last month I wrote an article called My Hopelessly Bipolar Relationship with Institutional Religion. It clearly struck a nerve among readers.

A couple of people felt my critique of institutional religion was too harsh. Several folks were unhappy with my criticism of Donald Trump and American Christians who admire him. One thoughtful person argued I should not have used the term “bipolar” (a serious mental health issue) in such a casual and nonclinical way, and I apologize for the insensitivity. However, the vast majority of readers who responded to the article resonated with my long-standing dilemma concerning organized religion in America.

At the end of the article, I asked readers, “What are you doing about church? And why?” As you can see below, reader responses fell into three distinct camps. Some of you have left institutional religion. Some of you are staying. And some of you are undecided. Given the large number of responses, I cannot share them all. But representative examples from all three camps follow.

Camp 1: Those Who Have Left

A good number of responders have left institutional religion. Several examples follow:

  • I miss the community but abhor the theology so I have drifted away. And, in the trend of churches today, I will not move toward another one.
  • I decided a few weeks ago to stop attending services. It just creates inner conflict, mental and emotional upheaval, and feelings of inauthenticity in the midst of believers. What am I doing here?  I ask myself during church services. I believe none of what they believe.
  • I gave up on organized religion. At first, there were mixed feelings about whether I had done the right thing. Now I have no desire to even attempt to go to a service. And I am okay with that. The church has lost what it means to follow Jesus.
  • I no longer call myself Christian. I am disgusted and ashamed by what I see those who claim this title are doing and saying—and not doing and saying. I want no part of this group.
  • I’ve happily left the organized church and put it in my rearview mirror as God has given me a functioning and satisfying “de facto church” made up of the people and groups in my local orbit and in the larger online orbit. My life is full with the personal friendship of “the God I know,” and with contacts, community, struggle, service, and worship here in the real world, . . . not that artificial religious world. “Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, I’m free at last!”
  • As to what I’m doing about church, the answer is “Not going at all.” Long story short is that my outrage at the institutional church is vast, ongoing, and unapologetic.
  • Once I saw how American Christians supported this vile, evil president, I left and have never looked back. Jesus didn’t start Christianity anyway and would certainly be aghast at what it has turned into.
  • I am uncomfortable going to church realizing I don’t belong and am a victim of judging by the holier-than-thou folks. I believe that Jesus would be horrified by so-called Christians as they condemn others.
  • I know there are many good Christian people out there who only want to practice their faith in peace and who do try to follow the teachings of Jesus. They’re not forcing their beliefs on everyone or trying to make it the law of the land. But it’s the other hateful, racist, and volatile sects of Christianity that have completely turned me off to the religion, and I want nothing more to do with it.

Camp 2: Those Who Have Stayed

Most responders, in spite of the church’s many flaws, are sticking with it, primarily because their congregation still manages to do good things—including fostering Christian community and serving people in need. Several examples follow:

  • I try to follow the teachings of Jesus but have real doubts about many statements in the creeds. I attend an affirming, welcoming, and diverse congregation that engages in a lot of community ministry. I continue to attend in order to participate in the many good things we do.
  • I view “the church” like people. Flawed. Imperfect. Works in process. But I feel that I am called to stay here and help.
  • Years ago I heard a quotation supposedly from Martin Luther concerning the church. “If it weren’t for the storm on the outside, you couldn’t stand the stench on the inside.” Whether he actually said that or not, it’s pretty much on target. I try to remember that I am part of the problem in many ways that I don’t even recognize.
  • Change is sometimes easier if urged from the inside. I have often questioned whether resigning in protest is the most effective action or if it just makes us feel better to wash our hands or shake the dust off our feet. I have come to see that the social capital gained from being involved in a church family outweigh the negatives. But I do sometime teeter precariously on the edge.
  • My father was a wonderful pastor and father. He, like a lot of clergy, was frequently hurt by the church, especially when he spoke out about racism in the 1960s. Someone asked him, “How and why do you stay in a church that treats others this way?”  His answer was, “I have found it easier to knock the dents out of a bucket from the inside.”  He felt he could make a bigger difference by staying in the church and using his influence there rather than by leaving. I am reminded of that when I am sorely tempted to be done with the church. So far, I have decided to stay in the “bucket.”
  • I have been deeply involved with healthy churches during my long lifetime, so I still have hope for the institutional church.
  • The church I serve is neither conservative nor openly ultraprogressive. It is moderate, and there are people here all across the political spectrum. That strikes my husband and me as being healthy and rare, and we cherish the church family and friendships we have here.
  • I am hanging on to my church, always will, but it is hard when I no longer believe in so much of the doctrine. But my local church offers me much support in the advocacy and social justice issues I have been involved in all my life.
  • After years of being condemned as an “abomination” by evangelical churches, I found a congregation that truly welcomed and affirmed LGBTQ people like me. For the first time in my life, I am a valued member of a church family. We’re certainly not perfect. Like any church, there’s plenty of conflicts, pettiness, and hypocrisy. But I am loved and appreciated here and I’m not leaving.

Camp 3: Those Who Are Undecided

Plenty of you are struggling with your relationship to the church, undecided if you will leave or stay. Several examples follow.

  • I am ambivalent, unsure, and frustrated.
  • I’ve been sitting on the fence on this issue for a long time. I’m still not sure which side of the fence I’m going to jump down on.
  • I don’t know what I’m going to do about church. If you figure out the right answer, please let me know!
  • I, too, am stuck in a sort of purgatory no-man’s-land when it comes to institutional religion. I’m not in and I’m not out. I am still trying to figure out where I am and am still working on my issue.
  • I no longer believe the theology. And I’m sick of the hypocrisy. But I hate to leave the long-term relationships I enjoy. It’s hard to know what to do.
  • Some days I’m certain that I’m leaving. Other days I think I’ll stay. The church is terribly flawed. But the church also does good things. I don’t yet know where I’m ultimately going to land.

Closing Comments

I completely understand all three of these camps and don’t judge any of them. In fact, I can make good arguments for all three. I’m currently living in camp number three (undecided). But I hope that someday, before too long, I’ll find resolution for this long-standing dilemma. In the end, everyone has to figure out their own relationship with institutional religion, me included.

And it’s not like there’s one correct choice. Being an authentic follower of Jesus is not the same thing as being a member of an institutional church. In short, loving Jesus and loving the church are two very different things. Sometimes they complement each other. And sometimes they don’t. Organized religion is a complicated world. It always has been. And it always will be.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this important matter. I wish you well as you navigate your own path concerning institutional religion in America. And I look forward to continuing this discussion in the days ahead.

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Martin Thielen, a retired United Methodist minister, former megachurch pastor, and best-selling author, is the founder and author of  Doubter’s Parish.

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